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Army Spc. Jeremy Hall, an atheist who served two combat tours in Iraq, has filed a religious discrimination lawsuit against the government.
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There are, in fact, atheists in foxholes

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Date published: 6/1/2008

ST. PETERSBURG, Fla.

--Maybe the reason the misperception persists that there are no atheists in foxholes is that nonbelievers must either shut up about their views or be hounded out of the military.

Just ask Army Specialist Jeremy Hall, who is making a splash in the news because of the way his atheism was attacked by superiors and fellow soldiers while he was risking his life in service to his country.

Hall, 23, served two combat tours in Iraq, winning the Combat Action Badge. But he's now stationed at Fort Riley, Kan., having been returned stateside early because the Army couldn't ensure his safety.

There is something deeply amiss when we send soldiers on a mission to engender peaceful coexistence between Sunni and Shiite Muslims, yet our military doesn't seem able to offer religious tolerance to its own.

Hall recounts the events that led to his marginalization in a federal lawsuit he filed in Kansas in March. He is joined by the Military Religious Freedom Foundation, a group devoted to assisting members of the military who object to the pervasive and coercive Christian proselytizing in our armed forces.

Hall's atheism became an issue soon after it became known. On Thanksgiving 2006, while stationed outside Tikrit, Hall politely declined to join in a Christian prayer before the holiday meal. The result was a dressing down by a staff sergeant who told him that as an atheist he needed to sit somewhere else.

In another episode, after Hall's gun turret took a bullet that almost found an opening, the first thing a superior wanted to know was whether Hall believed in Jesus now, not whether he was OK.

Then, in July, while still in Iraq, Hall organized a meeting of the Military Association of Atheists and Freethinkers. According to Hall, Maj. Freddy Welborn disrupted the meeting with threats, saying he might bring charges against Hall for conduct detrimental to good order and discipline, and that Hall was disgracing the Constitution. (Err, I think the major has that backward.) Welborn has denied the allegations, but The New York Times reports that another soldier at the meeting said that Hall's account was accurate.


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Date published: 6/1/2008


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Hello, Life, good to "see" you, too! (posted by pinkphantom , June 3, 2008 7:28 am)   
Your points are great as usual....Grace, there are many, many atheists and agnostics who live very productive and loving lives without religion and god. Christianity and other religions do not ensure good behavior. Look at how many people have died and suffered over the centuries because of religion. People are moral despite religion, not because of it. Most of the moral tenents of Christianity pre-date the bible. The Golden Rule is one example.

Patrick (posted by lifeisbeautiful , June 2, 2008 9:20 pm)   
You are right. We don't know & God does want us to be happy not walk around in fear.

Wow, how sad (posted by patrick4hp , June 2, 2008 3:50 pm)   
Grace, the number one rule to being a Christian is to realize people have been predicting the end of the world and the second coming since 100 AD, if not before. I have hope for the future, not going to expect the end of the world, it may come, but I sure am humble enough to say I really don't know. You're point of view is really sad, depressing. God wants you happy, joyous and free you know.

Rome was christian (posted by dolo724 , June 2, 2008 12:26 pm)   
when it fell. It had rotted from the inside enough not to be able to withstand the Christian invaders (Huns, converted by Romans).

Grace you missed my point God will never be out (posted by lifeisbeautiful , June 2, 2008 10:45 am)   
of MY picture so I think (know) I'll be fine. It's not about circumstances it's about trusting in spite of circumstances. No society will last forever (see Bible for reference) but I will live my life knowing that God's on my side. If I lose that I may as well throw in the towel. Can't spend my time worrying. Hey PINK good to "see" you again.

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