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The Patriot Act was unpatriotic!
Date published: 8/3/2008 The Patriot Act was unpatriotic! This is regarding wiretapping and the Fourth Amendment. Let me quote former Rep. Bob Barr, the Libertarian Party candidate for president: "A bill being advanced by the Democratic leadership would allow the government to listen to millions of phone calls by Americans with neither an individualized warrant nor an assessment of probable cause. "Although the law would offer some protection when a particular American was expressly targeted, even then the proposed rules fall short of what the Fourth Amendment mandates." I like Mr. Barr. I'm against anyone who doesn't respect the Fourth Amendment. Trespass against our constitutional rights is a civil offense. That is established in federal case law. Have Sen. McCain or Sen. Obama stated or affirmed a belief in the Fourth Amendment? Thomas Jefferson said that if you give up some freedom for some safety or security, you soon find that you have neither. I'm afraid Americans want to be safe more than they want to be free. The Patriot Act was unnecessary, and it is unpatriotic as well. Some people think the Constitution is outdated. I have to say the Constitution is the highest law of the land, and we Americans should demand that the government respect our constitutional rights. John Sterne Stafford
Date published: 8/3/2008
512 words or less
(posted by
ianrod
, Aug. 11, 2008 1:19 pm)
make many an argument half coherent. WWII was fought because US Sovereign territory was attacked by Japan. The pacifists kept us out till that point. The war against Germany was fought over freedom and the right of the People to make their own decisions. The Cold War was a fight to stop the spread of Communist Dictatorships. The Military was established to "Protect and Uphold the Constitution of the United States". How can a soldier watch the Constitution be tread upon and not take action?
If they don't have a reasonable suspicion
(posted by
bubbleman
, Aug. 10, 2008 5:01 pm)
they are violating your constitutional rights. And if they do, why the hell can't they get a warrant. Bush has ruined this country at home and away both, and should be punished for his crimes. And the laptop searching is just plain stupid. Anybody can upload anything to the net, and download it from anywhere. Another monstrous waste of money for no reason. While we take away hairpins from grandmothers on planes, terrorists could haul nukes across our border on mule carts.
the misperception
(posted by
chile
, Aug. 10, 2008 4:26 pm)
It's a misperception to think that the government is the United States of America. The government is not the country, the people are. The people are not here for the purpose of fulfilling the needs of the government, but vice-versa. While all in the country should contribute to help government work well FOR us, the rights of the government should NEVER trump those of the people who make it possible (all people in the country, not just the elected halfwits). Think about it.
Ianrod ,were you here for the cold war?
(posted by
Ron_C
, Aug. 8, 2008 2:26 am)
I was in the Military for a good chunk of the cold war and we weren't talking about fighting to end "guilt until proven innocent". More about halting the spread of the communist meanace. A "no knock" warrent is used when knocking on the door and anouncing puts the officers serving the warrent in danger from particularly violent offenders and is issued by a judge with cause. Oh and Germany was fought over them invading sovern nations and attempting genocide, not papers. Take a history class, you need one.
No one said you were guilty
(posted by
savedbygracealone
, Aug. 7, 2008 9:13 pm)
That still takes a jury of your peers. The police can arrest and detain you for up to 48 hours in some states without even charging you. That isn't in itself a conviction of a crime. If the police are searching for a criminal, and they need to put up a roadblock, and you go through the road block, they have every right to check your "papers", because the PRIVILEDGE to drive was granted by the state. It isn't a right. You're obligated to provide identification any time you're in a car on state roads.
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